Easyfeed BioMare

[Dustee]

I love biomare BUT in bulking a horse up I use Calm Performer the one that is in pellets like pony pellets (which is what I call it anyway and my feed guys know what I mean  ) so if you are already feeding him that what are you feeding it with?

When bulking our horses up they always have as much roughage as they can eat, basic grass hay or similar. Then we may also include steam flaked barley, oil and lucerne chaff.

How often are you feeding? All that feed at once wouldnt be good for the horse, break it into at least 2 feeds a day and make sure the horse has grazing hay well before hand, that way the horse wont gulp the feed down and follow it by gulping hay which just pushes it through the system before the gut can get all the goodies out.

On my calculations I would be feeding your horse at least another 1 kg per day of calm performer, dont know what it says on the packet and dont care because I feed a scoop equal to 1.4 kgs, my ponies get 2 a day to put on weight and once they are good 1 a day maintains it easily, my horses 3 - 4 a day to put on weight and 2 a day to maintain it. My horses are station bred raised in the paddock on grass they are all under 15 hh, so a tb I would be feeding a bit more than them.

[Indy]

 make sure the horse has grazing hay well before hand, that way the horse wont gulp the feed down and follow it by gulping hay which just pushes it through the system before the gut can get all the goodies out.

Thats interesting Dustee, none of my horses are poor and I have 3 on hard feed (the ottb is on hay alone) out of the 3 one little filly gulps everything so I think I will start feeding hay first, not because she is thin but in these conditions it doesnt take a horse long to lose condition. 

[zukharla]

That is interesting. Wondering if I should feed hay first, then the hardfeed. Though none of mine are "gulpers" and they take forever to get through their hay after their hardfeed.

[Ashstud]

We feed hard feed first and then hay.  But none of ours are gulpers.

[nicnacs_mistress]

I love biomare BUT in bulking a horse up I use Calm Performer the one that is in pellets like pony pellets (which is what I call it anyway and my feed guys know what I mean  ) so if you are already feeding him that what are you feeding it with?

When bulking our horses up they always have as much roughage as they can eat, basic grass hay or similar. Then we may also include steam flaked barley, oil and lucerne chaff.

How often are you feeding? All that feed at once wouldnt be good for the horse, break it into at least 2 feeds a day and make sure the horse has grazing hay well before hand, that way the horse wont gulp the feed down and follow it by gulping hay which just pushes it through the system before the gut can get all the goodies out.

On my calculations I would be feeding your horse at least another 1 kg per day of calm performer, dont know what it says on the packet and dont care because I feed a scoop equal to 1.4 kgs, my ponies get 2 a day to put on weight and once they are good 1 a day maintains it easily, my horses 3 - 4 a day to put on weight and 2 a day to maintain it. My horses are station bred raised in the paddock on grass they are all under 15 hh, so a tb I would be feeding a bit more than them.

I am feeding him 4 kilos of calm performer per day devided into 2 equal feeds morning and night, he is on VERY light work, maybe 20 minutes every 3 days. Has been wormed and had teeth done recently. Has ADLIB hay, in other words, if he wants it it is THERE. I dont feed anything else.

They all get Native grass 24/7, meadow hay adlib/24/7 and calm performer and the salt lick. I did say all of this at the start of the thread (except for the split feeds which should be a guaranteed thing anyway)

[nicnacs_mistress]

Hi everyone,

Just an update regarding my TB and biomare. I spoke to my stock agent and we compared a LOT of feeds using the data she had and FeedXl, and we decided that because I don't want to risk heating him up the Calm Performer will be the cheapest and best performing feed.

We have also added 1/2 cup of vegetable oil and 25grams of molassess.

So his new diet is 4 kg Calm Performer, broken into 2 feeds morning and night, with native grass 24/7 and medow hay (good) available 24/7, with 1/2 cup vegie oil and the molasses divided between both feeds.

Thanks for all of the comments people.

[Jasper]

I found Calm performer a waste of time and money. the only thing i would bother buying it for was our shetland in winter cause if you fed him anything else he'd be to fat. Bio mare has a lot more in it and in the long run works out better. I've used it on our Tb's with great results and never had a problem with them getting hot. but i did find that with breeda some of our horse did became hot.

[debstar]

i found calm performer to be a fantastic feed for TB's in full work, competing in dressage/showjumping/eventing every weekend and ridden every day. it also kept the condition on the warmblood, with the addition of barley. my mother still gives a kilo a day to the retired standardbred- he has been on it for 24 years.

[Indy]

Are they the pellets that are like pony pellets but cost a bit more?  If so I have used them in the past, or normally when a show horse goes to my daughters she starts them on calm performer, along with a couple other things.

[nicnacs_mistress]

Hey guys,

THanks for all of your replies. Blendi is finally putting weight on atm. He still isn't were I want him to be, but I figure we are building muscle, not fat, and that will take longer.

He is on 2kg of Four OldTimer, 2kg of calm performer (pony pellets) and half a scoop of equilibrium (because he isn't getting the basic doses of the complete feeds). He also has ad lib rhodes grass hay and 24/7 of native grass.
It has been about 3 months now and his ribs are almost completely covered (visual) but you can still feel them easily, and he is finally getting his topline built up.
I ended up increasing his workload to about 3 hours a week, with heaps of long and low and some collection and jumping. He looks and feels like a different horse. My barefoot trimmer came out a month ago to do his hooves for his first (barefoot) trim and she has just come back out again and she was astonished at the change in him. I am feeling quite happy with the results, and as I am after muscle not fat, I feel that I am on the right track with what he is being fed and how he is being worked. PC and my riding lessons are starting up this month again, so it will be interesting to see how we go after the 3-4 month break.
So once again, cheers for your time.

[Indy]

Comparing Bio Mare with Calm performer:

bio mare cubes                                 calm performer
Digestible Energy 14.2 MJ/kg              11 MJ/kg
Crude Protein 15.8 %                        11%
Crude Fat 7.5 %                               2.5%
Crude Fibre 5.0 %                             15%
Calcium 9 g/kg                                 1%  (this is more than 9gms per kilo)
Phosphorous 6.0 g/kg                        .55%  (this is slightly less)
Max Added Salt 1.4 %                       .75%

there were other trace minerals etc mentioned on both websites.